- Identity experiments in cyberspace in can be presented in two paradigms the first it, represent a retreat from or an alternative to social reality. The second paradigm understands cyberspace not as a seperate or distinct 'realm' but as part of our already existing social reality.
- The 'virtual' and 'real' need a framwork to determine the different experiences of the two.
- Andrea Bakers study of online relationships has shown that these interactions are infact every bit as real as 'real' life realtionships.
- Levy- "In cyberspace apparently we all leap from virtual place to place, change our shape, split and transform ourselves".
- Doreen Massey- We are all subject to the effects of networks, but not in the same way. Where some people may leap from network to network, others have the power to determine who gets to leap. Massey sees that different social groups will react different on cyberspace, some people are more in charge and some intiate the flows and movement while others are more on the recieving end.
Turkles 'Who Am We':
- Turkle researched into how the computer profoundly shapes our ways of thinking and feeling.
- Turkles looked as MUDers conversations and found that they quickly turned into multiple personae and romance. Showing how pcs change our lives as well as ourselves.
- "The Internet links millions of people in new spaces that are changing the way we think and the way we form our communities.
- People are using computers to become comfortable with new ways of thinking about evolution, relationships, sexuality, politics and identity.
- Windows allows us to be in several contexts at once, in MUD, chatrooms, email, microsoft word.
- A decade ago it was unthinkable to believe that a computer could change peoples views, and who they are.
hi hannah. you are making some very intersting points from your readings. i especially like 'Andrea Bakers study of online relationships has shown that these interactions are infact every bit as real as 'real' life realtionships.' do you agree with what andrea is saying here? does anyone else agree or disagree? im not sure about it myself. how can a interaction face to face be the same as interacting online with all the points we heard in Daves lecture about manipluation of self identity? what do you think? i am going way of course here?
ReplyDeleteI have to sya that I disagree, I think to a certain extent you could get to know someone through the net, but in order to establish a relationship I think that you have to meet the person 'face to face'. I don't think we can ever have a real relationship through a computer screen, people can hide parts of their identities etc.
ReplyDeletei think i disagree with Andrea Bakers points to. there are elements of trust to be issued - seeing is beleiving, so seeing someone face to face is more truthworthy than on screen.
ReplyDeletei think unless you already know the person and are talking on such networks as facebook/myspace etc your never going to know the real person behind the screen and therefore not really creating a relaionship per say!
katie and ali... what do you think? (im trying to get a discussion going as advised by sue and dave)
I agree with both of you, I don't think you can gain a relationship by talking to someone on the internet, You have to meet face-to-face as Hannah said. You wont ever know anyone truly until you do, you can't see people's facial expression when talking online, so you never know how there taking what you say and what they really think of you. I'm not a fan of people using the internet to meet people, it seems weird to me!
ReplyDeleteI think that talking to people on the internet for example through msn also creates problems as you cannot read the peoples behaviour and are not able to understand if a person is joking, being sarcastic etc. The internet takes away all the personal parts of a relationship. Users of the internet are more likely to voice their opinion if they have a mask to hide behind which is not necessarily a good thing, because you are creating a different persona and not being true to who you really are!
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